Speaker 0 00:00:00 See if, Speaker 1 00:00:08 Yeah, I guess he wasn't Speaker 2 00:00:09 Here. He wasn't here last, he wasn't here last Speaker 3 00:00:11 Three. It was just us. So if he comes, that means we have to go over this again for him to make a decision. 'cause he wasn't here last week. Speaker 4 00:00:20 I'm sorry. Did the board meet last week? Speaker 2 00:00:23 Two weeks ago, right. Two weeks ago. Yeah, Speaker 4 00:00:24 We did. That's interesting. I don't recall getting an open public meeting. Notice Speaker 5 00:00:30 You guys didn't have the public meeting yet. You should have had the public meeting before this meeting. Speaker 4 00:00:35 We were notified of this meeting. We were not notified of any prior meeting. Speaker 1 00:00:40 Okay. I'll discuss that. Speaker 4 00:00:42 That's very interesting. Hmm. Well that's a question for, for later. Speaker 5 00:00:51 Yeah. You guys actually meet pretty regularly? Speaker 2 00:01:06 No, Speaker 5 00:01:08 This is the specialty. Speaker 2 00:01:09 This is the first time I've ever met since I've been on the board four Speaker 5 00:01:12 For five years. No way. This is Speaker 2 00:01:15 The second time Speaker 5 00:01:16 Ations. Okay. Alright. This Speaker 2 00:01:17 Just the second time. And I've been on that a decade. Okay. So it's only be my second time. Speaker 5 00:01:21 Oh, okay. Well that's good. I issues coming up so like Yes, exactly. Yep. Speaker 1 00:01:28 Very hard. Speaker 2 00:01:30 And, and your and your roles Speaker 4 00:01:33 Or members of the public. Speaker 2 00:01:34 Oh, the public. Okay. Speaker 5 00:01:36 Okay. Yeah. So we just saw, there was like the public meeting of, you know, public notice of the ethics board and I was like, I didn't even know we had one of those. I'm just trying to learn what's going on, you know? Oh. Trying to be more, more involved in my community. Get myself outta my head with work. Speaker 0 00:01:57 Pastor Leo should be coming. Speaker 1 00:02:00 Pastor who? Saunders. Speaker 0 00:02:02 No, they're not sure about Saunders, but Pastor, she said that Pastor Leo said he was gonna come. Joseph, Leo. So we will wait a little, a few minutes, otherwise we have a quorum to at least start the meeting. So procedurally start the meeting. We can pick a chair before we start the meeting. I'll just give you the procedure. So start the meeting, pick a chair. 'cause you're required to do that under the ordinance. Once you meet, pick a chair. We can, we will go into executive session, discuss the, the issues once you've go after, after we discuss the issues and executive sessions, you come out and then make some public determinations. Okay. Okay. Speaker 2 00:02:51 Do you want to bring up the fact that these two ladies are then the pa Speaker 0 00:02:58 So there's no hearings for this meeting right now. This is under the initial determination whether there is a basis for a hearing for those for for the, for those for the ethics complaint. So if the board and it's their decision decides that there is a basis for a hearing and investigation, then they will proceed to a next meeting with where the parties will be notified. They can present additional statements and then we would actually have a hearing. Sure. But right now we're just at that initial determination as to whether there would need to be a basis from the complaint and based on that basis, whether, whether there the board wants to move forward with the hearing. Speaker 4 00:03:43 Okay. But this is a public meeting. Oh, Speaker 0 00:03:44 Absolutely. A public meeting. Wonderful. Yeah. Just so you can stay here until they move into executive session. Of course. And then you can come back after they end executive session to be here for any determinations that they move. Speaker 4 00:03:54 Sure. We, we did just have a question 'cause we, we were chatting that there was a meeting a couple of weeks ago. Speaker 0 00:04:00 So there was an informal meeting where there was no actual discussion by the board. That was just me providing them the procedure. Speaker 4 00:04:07 Okay. But it wasn't a public meeting for which there was no, 'cause Speaker 0 00:04:10 There was no statements by any of the board. Sure. And Speaker 4 00:04:12 Together, I just wanted to clarify. Yes. Because you Speaker 0 00:04:15 Know Yes. No, there was no public meeting. The notice didn't, wasn't provided. Speaker 4 00:04:18 Sure. So yeah, that's what we were just wonderful. I'm glad we cleared that up. Thank you very much. Speaker 0 00:04:24 The board doing the test. I told 'em do not discuss anything as Speaker 4 00:04:27 Of course. So yeah. No, I I think we just had a little confusion earlier. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:04:32 So, okay. Do we know, do you wanna check in with Pastor Leo? See if he's coming. Speaker 1 00:04:38 Okay. I talked to him this morning because Yeah. And is there a quorum either without Speaker 0 00:04:55 Testing? Yeah, we have three that meets a quorum. So we could go and start the minute meeting. But I figured, let's just see if Ashley is here. Sure. So Speaker 3 00:05:19 I know how your weekend was. Speaker 1 00:05:24 That's great. Speaker 4 00:05:27 Very nice. Thank you. I Speaker 1 00:05:28 Was, I like this kind of weather. Got out on my garden. I, I live this swim too. Speaker 4 00:05:35 Husband and I went for a hike. We had a great time. Oh nice. Speaker 1 00:05:39 I would've, but my husband's sick. Miserable as walk with Speaker 3 00:05:46 Run. But I'm not hiking 'cause I'm afraid of lines and tigers and bears Speaker 1 00:05:49 Over mine. Yep. I seen a Speaker 3 00:05:55 Fox, I was walking, I'm like Oh Speaker 5 00:05:57 Wow. Over the place. I know. Yeah. During the day where they're Speaker 6 00:06:00 Being moved out there Speaker 5 00:06:02 Much more than we ever used to to see em. Right. And I think that's right. Think they just may have nowhere where else to be, but in our yards. Just like here used Have Speaker 6 00:06:09 You used to see a lot of 'em over on Pop Town Road? Mm. Now that they're building other warehouses and over Yeah, it's pushing them up. Speaker 3 00:06:16 Yeah. So they come walking over here in the high area because Yeah, Speaker 1 00:06:20 I was like, Speaker 3 00:06:21 And he was out early. Don't do, they goes, I Speaker 5 00:06:23 Thought no, you would. We see them like at dusk and that's what Yeah. Normal. Well, or you could see Yeah, you would see him like early in the morning, like maybe going home from their nights. Right. Right. That's when I today, but now you see them day. You're right. And then you wonder like, are they rabid or See that was what I was, Speaker 4 00:06:40 It was rabid skunk. I heard about last week here in Piscataway. Really? Yeah. Rabid skunk. So if you get, don't don't get bit by anything. And if you do go to the hospital, Speaker 3 00:06:50 What area was that in? Speaker 4 00:06:52 I'd have to check. Speaker 6 00:06:53 I think I seen that on my, on on ring. They was saying there was a rabbits clunk and I think it was over near my area. I live over on William Street. So somewhere in that area. Speaker 5 00:07:04 Area. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:07:06 That's why Vulner somewhere Speaker 5 00:07:10 Long, right? Speaker 6 00:07:11 Yeah. I get all kind of animals over there except bears. I haven't seen the bears. Speaker 3 00:07:16 Are we gonna a bear over there by Norwood? A few years ago? Speaker 5 00:07:19 I remember that. We didn't see it. I remember know Speaker 3 00:07:24 Can just, okay. Passed Speaker 5 00:07:29 Everybody. Speaker 1 00:07:30 I move my stuff. Sorry. Speaker 0 00:07:45 Okay. So we can get started. Speaker 1 00:08:13 Okay. Speaker 0 00:08:15 So as we have no chair, I'll start the meeting just to get you guys into the chair a vote. And then from there you guys can take the lead. So starting the meeting at 12:11 PM for board of ethics meeting on September 9th, 2026. So first order of action is to pick a chair. So are there any nominations you can nominate yourself? Speaker 3 00:08:43 No, yet I'm not good father since he's been on it for 10 years already. Speaker 1 00:08:48 Okay. Speaker 0 00:08:49 Any other nominations? Okay, so let's just a vote. I'll say aye. And then I'll find out if there's any nays. So, so, and I'll say aye. If, if or father aye. Aye. Aye. Okay. A so nay nays, just no. Okay. Father, so you can proceed. Okay. Next step would be to go, to go into executive session to discuss the matters. Okay. Pursuant to the township code. So you can request that at that point you guys would step out. We just ask you to not stay by the doors because unfortunately this room is not soundproof. Okay. And we'll find you Maybe councils chambers might be a good place and we'll come find you. Okay. As soon as executive sessions, it's ended. So you can come back in. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:09:39 We can wait there. Yeah, Speaker 0 00:09:40 We agree. Okay. All right. So Father, do you wanna go ahead and and start executive session? Absolutely. Okay. All right. Father, do you want to proceed? Speaker 2 00:09:52 Yes. So we're going to, we're going to vote first on the, the, in the matter of the complaint of Elizabeth Mack against Councilman, then ces. And we are voting as the board, we are voting to dismiss the complaint. Speaker 0 00:10:19 Father, do you wanna just do a summary of why a short Speaker 2 00:10:26 Determination, the complaint is outside its jurisdiction in part and otherwise without any reasonable factual basis. The complaint is dismissed, no notice shall issue and the matter is closed. Speaker 0 00:10:40 Okay. Do you wanna run a roll call? Speaker 1 00:10:45 Dismissal, dismissal, Speaker 2 00:10:48 Dismiss dismissal. Speaker 0 00:10:51 Okay, so father, we'll just, yeah, just go ahead and record the vote and, and then sign that at the bottom. We should actually do, I think there's a motion and a second. So actually father, if you wanna run a motion and a second just to confirm who would file, basically ask for a motion to dismiss and a second just to confirm that procedure. Speaker 2 00:11:16 Motion to dismiss. Speaker 1 00:11:17 I second. Speaker 0 00:11:20 So motion and a second? I think I heard. Yes, so we can record just if you could record that on there. Speaker 2 00:11:29 Okay. Motion by and your full spelling of your name. Speaker 1 00:11:34 M-I-C-H-E-L-L-E Speaker 2 00:11:39 Styles. Right? STY. Right. Speaker 1 00:11:41 STY Speaker 2 00:11:43 Stop. Second Speaker 6 00:11:46 Lakin. L-A-N-O-R-R-I-S. Last name Nichols, N-I-C-H-O-L-S. Speaker 2 00:12:00 And we saw her name where it says bye, right? Speaker 0 00:12:03 Yes. That would be Speaker 1 00:12:15 Okay. Speaker 0 00:12:22 Do you wanna go onto the second one? Yes. Did you guys don need to actually sign? No, I check off. Just put a check. Yeah, we can just put a check mark on Father, if you wanna put it on the copy that you signed and we can just have the one copy Speaker 2 00:12:58 That Speaker 0 00:12:58 Our Yeah. That you signed. Okay. So not everybody needs to sign just the chair. Okay. So, and then just check off the vote before, so everybody voted for, okay. Okay. And those absent just record the, Speaker 2 00:13:11 So Reverend Santo is the only one who's not here? Speaker 0 00:13:14 Yes. Correct. Speaker 1 00:13:23 Okay. Speaker 0 00:13:27 That take care of that. Okay. Speaker 2 00:13:32 And the second is in the matter of the complaint of Brian Black against Rodney Blount. And the determination is made, Speaker 2 00:13:46 The complaint is within our jurisdiction, the board's jurisdiction and has at least a minimal factual basis on October 15th, a letter to the respondent together with the determination constitutes this notice and the nature of the complaint is summarized above. The respondent may submit any written statement on or before December 9th, 2026. We're reading await that, that written statement, the board requests that Laura Buckley, the reporting secretary, the zoning board, provide the board the video recording of the zoning board of adjustment on December 11th, 2025 meeting. And the zoning board's memorializing resolution for the case copies of this determination shall be transmitted to the complaint. The respondent, the chief attorney Laura Buckley, the recording secretary and the zoning board of adjustment. So we are, we are voting to, we are voting to continue and we are requesting that the, that the respondent, that the respondent within the time period mentioned here supplies his, his response to us. And he has, as you said, indicated that he wants to resolve. Speaker 0 00:15:16 Yeah. And so the next step for the board procedurally would be this. Dana will provide the appropriate notices to the different depart individuals pursuant to the resident, the determination. And then we'll see if Mr. Lau, pursuant to the initial determination, submits a statement and then a new meeting will be scheduled for you to discuss and make a determination of next steps, Speaker 2 00:15:42 That statement. Right. Okay. Okay. So we are voting yes that we are, that's where we're going. Yes. Yes. Speaker 0 00:15:51 Yeah. Do you wanna do a motion and a second just to confirm that procedure? Speaker 1 00:15:54 Okay. Speaker 2 00:15:56 I'm motioning that, do I have a second? Second, second. Okay. Speaker 1 00:16:02 Okay. Okay, Speaker 2 00:16:41 Just recording. Speaker 0 00:16:42 Yeah, you can just record the vote and then sign as the chair. And then father, the next steps will be just for procedurally purposes, determine if the board is any, any other further discussions to discuss. And if not, you can go ahead and Speaker 2 00:17:22 Michelle close the meeting. Speaker 0 00:17:28 Okay. So meeting adjourned at 12. Speaker 0 00:17:35 Alright. Thank you everyone. You welcome. Dana will notify you. She gets, she's gonna issue all the notices and then if we receive a, a, a, a statement from Mr. Blo, it'll be provided to all of you and then schedule a another meeting and provide public notice. Okay. Within that timeframe, would that meeting be by the end of the year? Yeah, we could, we should squeeze it in. Okay. Okay. And depending on availability of all the members, we need to make sure we court. Okay. Because we only need three members to actually do the vote. Or you need three members, we need a corner three. Okay. Okay. Alright. Thank you.